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Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts
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Salon has a great article that at least explains the basics.

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by: Anonymous reply 481 07/20/05 @09:46

Found this on imdb board:

"Is it about N. Watts' real life?

Did any of you see this text on the 21 Grams main page? I ran into it a few days ago.

"Australian actress Naomi Watts has always regretted telling a journalist she had considered suicide before she had her big break - as she insists the comment was taken too literally. The 21 Grams star, 36, admits she was on the brink of dangerous depression during hard times as a struggling actress in Los Angeles, but was shocked when she realized the press had latched onto her comment. She previously told a reporter, "I remember driving along Mulholland Drive, thinking, 'Maybe I'll just go over the cliff because I can't take it anymore.'" However, Watts explains, "That wasn't literal. For the record, I am not a suicidal person. But I understand depression and I've lived it and I felt really badly when I read that and suddenly it's everywhere, 'Naomi Contemplating Suicide.'" Watts leapt to fame in 2001 with David Lynch drama Mulholland Dr."

That makes me wonder if Mulholland Dr. actually was created as some sort of reflection on Naomi Watts' life. Was she a friend of David Lynch and confided this to him at some point before he created the story, or is the similarity between the incident she describes and the movie just a coincidence?"

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by: Anonymous reply 482 07/20/05 @20:31

Hi! That is really intriguing me...I always found really strange that there are so many coincidences. Diane (the character of MD)struggles as an actress. Naomi struggled too. Her friend Camilla seduced the director to help her career as an actress. Nicole did it too in some way with Tom Cruise. Diane lives in the shadow of Camilla. Naomi did lived in the shadow of Nicole before MD. Diane has a big crush on Camilla but she's going to marry the director. Naomi maybe had a crush on Nicole too, but she was married to Tom. And did you noticed that Naomi's breakthrough was after Nicole and Tom got separated? Don't you remember one of Nicole's interviews when she said that, "boys come and go, and girls stay"? She used the words "sisterhood" and "taking care" I guess. Maybe she had more time and was more "motivated" in helping her friend in that particular time. It is a little bit odd...It could be just my imagination but I don't know and I guess we will never now...silencio........

by: Anonymous reply 483 07/21/05 @19:08

r464--Chicken is Liev's dog and the teen with Naomi looks like Liev's younger sister (she's walking his dog on one of the pix).

by: Anonymous reply 484 07/21/05 @19:39

This is probably the most informative interview Naomi did around the time MD came out. I'll just paste the whole thing, because basically all of it is interesting.

The Sundaytimes, January 06 2002 Film: Naomi Watts interview She's played second fiddle to best bud Nicole Kidman for far too long - but now Naomi Watts is coming out of the shadows with a steamy lesbian role in David Lynch's Mulholland Drive, says Garth Pearce Until now, Naomi Watts has been best known in her supporting role as Nicole Kidman's best friend. The two actresses first met as teenagers in Sydney at an audition for an advertisement, but they were both judged the wrong shape to sell bikinis. Watts remained Kidman's confidante as the latter's career soared. Last year, when Kidman's marriage to Tom Cruise combusted spectacularly, it was Watts's shoulder she cried on. Now, however, the 31-year-old Watts's supporting role is about to change, thanks to a virtuoso performance in David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. "I am cynical," she reveals. "This time, though, the big offers are firm and I have to start believing that this is the breakthrough." In Watts's case, the flash-and-burn of all her hopes has been exacerbated by watching Kidman's irresistible march to international success. At one point, they were neck-and- neck, working together on the small-budget 1989 Australian film Flirting. There was not much to choose between the 5ft 11in pale girl with tumbling red ringlets and the blonde, blue-eyed 5ft 5in Watts. Then Kidman got her break in the thriller Dead Calm, and everything changed. Tom Cruise, already a big star, saw her performance, cast her in Days of Thunder, and they fell in love. Meanwhile, Watts was still struggling in Australia, playing a paraplegic in the daytime soap Home and Away. "It has not all been plain sailing and, like any friendship, there have been ebbs and flows," she says. "But Nicole has remained my best mate - and we know virtually everything there is to know about each other."

We meet in London. Watts has been driven up from Wales, where she has just completed filming Plots With a View with Brenda Blethyn, Alfred Molina and Christopher Walken. She is a straight-talker: pretty, with direct blue eyes, and an accent that is a curious hybrid of English, Australian and American.

She was born in Britain, but her parents were divorced when she was four. Her father, a sound engineer for Pink Floyd, died in 1981, when she was 11. When she was 14, her mother and stepfather emigrated to Australia, taking a reluctant Watts with them. "I had to face not only another new school, but a new country and way of life," she says. "I met Nic in the first year and I think that is why we've been so close. I was a newcomer and she helped me."

In the mid-1990s, Watts moved to Los Angeles to join her old friend there. "At first, everything was fantastic and doors were opened to me," she says. "But some people who I met through Nicole, who had been all over me, had difficulty remembering my name when we next met. There were a lot of promises, but nothing actually came off. I ran out of money and became quite lonely, but Nic gave me company and encouragement to carry on."

A glimmer of hope came when she was cast as Jet Girl in 1995's Tank Girl, but the film flopped. "It is a tough town," says Watts. "I think my spirit has taken a beating. The most painful thing has been the endless auditions. Knowing that you have something to offer, but not being able to show it, is so frustrating. As an unknown, you get treated badly. I auditioned and waited for things I did not have any belief in, but I needed the work and had to accept horrendous pieces of shit."

Even a move to Britain to work on a BBC period drama, The Wyvern Mystery, had a cruel irony. Her co-star was Iain Glen, with whom Kidman had performed in passionate close-up in the West End play The Blue Room. It was as if, yet again, Watts was left holding the bouquet flung by a triumphant Kidman.

"It is difficult to rub shoulders with people who are doing well when you are not. You have to believe in yourself and keep that belief to yourself. Otherwise, you are lost. It is also best not to make comparisons. If I ever found myself thinking that way, then I would focus on the guy sitting on a street corner with a begging cup, and think: ‘Compared to him, I am the luckiest person.'"

Any comparison she used to make between the respective lots of her and her best friend ended last year, when Cruise announced that he wanted a divorce. Kidman, 34, say friends, became an emotional wreck and leant heavily on her friend. "Nic still does not know to this day the real reasons for the whole thing - and that is the truth," says Watts. "We have shared intimacies about our lives and I can't pass these on. But I know she has handled the whole thing in the most graceful way.

"The awful thing is that she's had to live out her divorce in public. Other couples do that all over the world in private and it's still a painful process. I was already sceptical about marriage after my own parents divorced, but this has made it worse. With Nic, there has been no escape. She has carried on promoting films like Moulin Rouge and The Others, knowing the first question will be: ‘What went wrong?' When she really knows, she might answer."

Watts, in contrast, has been able to conduct her own two-year relationship with the 41-year-old British director Stephen Hopkins in total privacy. Nobody yet looks when they go out together and nobody asks about it. "I first worked with him on a commercial when I was a kid," she says. "He was just a young director and I never gave it a thought. We met up regularly and, at some point, we found ourselves single and getting on with each other. It has been like that ever since."

But even Hopkins, who directed Lost in Space, was taken aback by what Lynch asked of Watts in Mulholland Drive. She plays Betty Elms, a struggling Hollywood actress - shades of art mirroring life here - who becomes embroiled in an odd friendship with the mysterious Rita (Laura Harring). In the film, Betty is drawn into a lesbian relationship with Rita. There are moments of sexual intimacy between the two actresses and one despairing masturbation scene performed by Watts. "The film is over two hours long, but those are the scenes I remember when I first read the script," she says. "I met David Lynch at his house a few days prior to shooting and went through the graphic details. It was like a laundry list. But the day before we started shooting, I went back to his house and shed a few tears. I was freaked out. There were three scenes in the film when I am supposed to take my top off. I negotiated it down to two. I was not offended by it - I am just very wary of that stuff.

"The lesbian and masturbation scenes were non-negotiable. I had kissed lots of girls before, but not like this. It was quite odd, because Laura and I are both soft and gentle and there was no driving force. I was amazed how honest and real all this looks on screen. These girls look really in love and it was curiously erotic. Laura is very free in her sexuality. I am, too, but usually only with someone I am intimate with."

She is less certain about her solo sex scene. "This was one I found difficult right up to the shooting experience," she says. "I had to go to the bathroom about 100 times between takes. The camera was about four inches away from my face, moving up and down my body. The scene plays for a minute or two, but Lynch went on for about eight. That is why he is so brilliant. He is there for you, yet still determined to get the best he can. If he had bailed out, then I would have lost it, too."

Watts has delivered so comprehensively that she has leapfrogged from unknown to Hollywood front-runner. While Mulholland Drive is the choice of New York film critics as their best movie of the year, she was runner-up as best actress to Judi Dench (in Iris, out on January 18).

Naomi Watts, who has been used to playing second fiddle to her best friend, now looks set to join her in the spotlight. "On the strength of this," she says, "I have been offered a choice of big studio films. I am not going to blow it."

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by: Anonymous reply 485 07/21/05 @20:25

Random cute pic of Nicole:

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by: Anonymous reply 486 07/21/05 @20:46

I love that pic, r486!

by: Anonymous reply 487 07/21/05 @23:20

That's a great interview. Thank you kindly, R485.

by: Anonymous reply 488 07/22/05 @02:33

Great f*ckin article, R485!

by: Anonymous reply 489 07/22/05 @04:43

R486 and R487 - that's hilarious.

by: Anonymous reply 490 07/22/05 @04:52

F & F! This is chat!

by: Anonymous reply 491 07/22/05 @05:06

Another random-not-random pic of Nicole.

PS, 491, the 11 posts (including yours) over two days on this page hardly constitutes "chat".

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by: Anonymous reply 492 07/22/05 @06:29

Oh cool... I gotta see Cold Mountain.

by: Anonymous reply 493 07/22/05 @07:51

There is one short segment in Cold Mountain with some subtext. They're at a christmas party and Nicole's character gives Renee's character one of her gold bracelets. That pic is from that scene.

by: Anonymous reply 494 07/22/05 @08:21

This scene was supposed to be shortly after the party scene but was deleted:

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by: Anonymous reply 495 07/22/05 @08:58

Another cute deleted scene:

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by: Anonymous reply 496 07/22/05 @08:58

R481 - That was a GREAT article on Mulholland Drive. Thank you!

by: Anonymous reply 497 07/23/05 @00:31

You guys did a great job - I worship Mulholland Drive, but I had no idea that David Lynch changed parts of the story (i.e. Diane's and Camilla's relationship) after the casting of Naomi Watts. There we have our coincidences once again. Thanks for letting me in on this.

by: Anonymous reply 498 07/23/05 @15:53

r433, Nicole didn't handpick Lopez, she is helping to get the movie made as a favour to her acting coach, Susan Baston, who also happens to work with Lopez, Baston wrote the movie for Lopez.

by: Anonymous reply 499 07/23/05 @22:24

Quote from the article above:

"...I had kissed lots of girls before, but not like this...Laura is very free in her sexuality. I am, too, but usually only with someone I am intimate with."

How'd you feel? She implicitly tells everybody that she is, at least, a bi

by: Anonymous reply 500 07/24/05 @01:30

^I think so too.

by: Anonymous reply 501 07/24/05 @04:15

You know if you add up that statement from Naomi with Nicole's little Leno outburst about Rebecca "and I kissed her... I mean not kissed..." and the pics of Naomi kissing Rebecca, I'd say they are all kissing each other, but since it's just on the lips it doesn't really *count* - or something.

by: Anonymous reply 502 07/24/05 @06:27

They kiss each other on the lips in the streets with paparazzis photographing them. And how about what they do behind doors? We don't see that. And never will. So, we can't say that they are girlfriends, but we can't say either that they aren't girlfriends. And that's all...

by: Anonymous reply 503 07/24/05 @16:43

Here's what I can say: I tried to play that link with Nicole making the slip about kissing Rebecca on Leno and it didn't work. Will someone please post it again? I can't find it and I'd looove to see it. I think maybe I'm not alone, here.

by: Anonymous reply 504 07/24/05 @21:09

But the thing is, R503, we CAN say that they are girlfriends.

by: Anonymous reply 505 07/24/05 @21:11

I gathered some of the videos from this thread on the gallery page... they should work there.

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by: ...too much time and all that reply 506 07/24/05 @21:13

r504, Nicole didn't make a slip, she just came out and said she kissed Rebecca, it wasn't an "oops" moment. Leno asked her if she kissed anyone on New Year's Eve, she said yes that her friend is a New Year baby so she got a kiss.

r500, she isn't saying anything of that sort IMO, like she said she has kissed a lot of girls but not in the capacity of MD, yes, she is free with her sexuality, all it means to me is that she has no qualms about it, I don't think you need to be bi in order to say you are free with your sexuality, we can all say we are free with our sexualities as gays or straights.

by: Anonymous reply 507 07/24/05 @21:20

507: Nicole MADE it into an oops moment by getting all flustered out about it, and Leno wasn't exactly helping either.

by: Anonymous reply 508 07/24/05 @21:38

r507, I agree that saying we are free with our sexualities doesn't mean something specific. But she did emphasize the point about "someone" she is intimate with. I thought I could wink at her if I were the interviewer.

by: Anonymous reply 509 07/25/05 @02:05

Whether Nicole Kidman dines the 'Y' or not, that clip with her and Jay Leno is hilarious.

by: Anonymous reply 510 07/25/05 @03:27
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