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And I can't believe it has over 630+ responses, I thought me and my fantasy was all alone on this subject. Clearly not.
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dl is amazing. Apparently DL started the Marcia Cross lesbian outburst. So, maybe we're partly to blame for the fact that she's faking a het marriage to silence the rumours (and our board - lol) back onto subject - Naomi is dating Liev, and Nicole is just 'hanging' with male friends, as if they were 'brothers'. Why aren't naomi and nic doing so much stuff together any more? Maybe whenever they see eachother a flame burns inside them and they have to resist the urge to leap into eachothers' arms and passionately embrace - which is what they're trying to avoid, I'm sure.
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I just saw Bewitched, and there were some lines that were very interesting if you look at magic as a euphemism for being gay. (this works even better with Practical Magic btw). Nicole's character is called Isabel. --- Nigel: What's going on Isabel? Isabel: I'm moving here. Nigel: To the valley? Why on earth would you do that? Isabel: Because it's normal. Nigel: You're normal, you're just... Isabel: (interrupting) I know, I know, but I'm not gonna be one anymore. Nigel: You have no choice in the matter. It's what you are. --- Iris: Darling, that was marvelous. But, watch out for that. (gesturing her ear) Isabel: Please don't say anything. Iris: Calm down, you're not alone. Isabel: I'm not? There are others? Iris: There are *many* others. Many actors, they develop tricks, twitches really. You don't want to become mannered. Isabel: Oh no, I don't. Iris: No. Isabel: Oh, thank you Iris! --- Isabel: I can't be normal because I'm a witch. I can't be a witch because I really wanna be normal.
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Bewitched the original show was all about hiding you are or discrimination. It was a sort of gay-icon tv show. I think the movie just naturally had the gay euphemism due to the fact that it took it's ideas from the original. Nicole was so cute in Bewitched. Teehee. Did anyone else feel some tension between Nicole and Renee's characters in Cold Mountain? I seriously thought they were going to end up with eachother.
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08/26/05 @19:57 |
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Did anyone find those sex scenes in Mulholland Drive weird? Like Naomi's character was far more into it than the other chick. i.e Naomi wanting to tounge but the other girl was just regular "movie kissing."
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08/26/05 @20:27 |
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Yeah, Cold Mountain had some pretty obvious subtext. But they cut out several of their more intimate scenes. Maybe it would have been too obvious with those left in, heh. It's funny that so many of Nicole's movies are so *gay*, To Die For, Moulin Rouge, The Hours, Stepford Wives and to a lesser extent Bewitched. And even some those that aren't really gay, like Practical Magic and Cold Mountain still manages to have hella subtext.
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635, it sorta makes sense in the context of the movie, since Diane was more into Camilla than vice versa and it's when they're having sex that reality starts to break through into the fantasy. But regardless of that Laura Harring (the other chick) seems a bit more naive and a bit less experienced than Naomi (nothing about kissing lots of girls before, ahem). "As for playing a lesbian, Harring insists she actually doesn't regard either Rita or Betty as Sapphic sisters. "The love scene just happened in my eyes," she opines. "Rita's very grateful for the help Betty's given [her] so I'm saying goodbye and goodnight to her, thank you, from the bottom of my heart, I kiss her and then there's just an energy that takes us [over]. Of course I have amnesia so I don't know if I've done it before, but I don't think we're really lesbians." An acknowledged heterosexual in real life, Harring nonetheless acknowledges having experienced intimate brushes with female friends, and therefore could relate to her not-necessarily- de-facto-dyke character's sexually bonding with Watts'. "I know that feeling of intensive love," she affirms. "I did have one girlfriend, she was much older than I was, really beautiful. One time she got very, very drunk, and whispered in my ear, in Spanish, 'I'm going to teach you a little decadence.' She said it real close; she kind of slobbered on my ear. I went 'omigod, is she making a pass at me?' It [didn't become] sexual, but I'm sure that when you're best friends with someone it can." (thanks for that last sentence, heh heh)
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08/26/05 @20:47 |
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I think Naomi probably feels the same way about relationships with girls. She's probably done some stuff with girls before, but is generally acknowledged as a heterosexual.
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08/26/05 @22:03 |
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Gay or not, Naomi Watts' character really fell in love with Camilla (who was, if we wanna label everything, bisexual). It's not really a lesbian story and IMO it wasn't about that subject. That's why the movie works, it could've worked just as well if the character played by Watts would have been a man. It would have been nowhere near as beautiful to watch then, of course :)
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08/27/05 @04:38 |
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too true 639.
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08/27/05 @07:49 |
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are we running out of nicomi evidence?!
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08/28/05 @02:22 |
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Just make up some more
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08/28/05 @03:14 |
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I'll make up something nice later. But Nicole actually was in the German and Austrian society columns this week, stating that she's sick of the media gossip regarding the missing man in her life. Basically she said if the "right one" comes along (the translation is not clear here... she probably said "the right person"), she and her kids will decide. She added: "So, to everyone who's interested, you'll have 3 people to convince." She also addressed the diva rumours and explained that she's not about airs and graces. She's the most happy when wandering through the Australian outback or on the back of a motorcycle. So, nothing new here really. The source is a German TV Guide:
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08/28/05 @04:21 |
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Thanks R 643... I love the part that says boldy (Männer-Gerede macht Kidman krank), which when translated word for word in English say Man-Talk makes Kidman ill/sick. HA HA! Not so literally translated it still says that Kidman is sick of all the talk about men (you know, who she's dating or not, etc).
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08/28/05 @08:20 |
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Russell Crowe and Nicole Kidman, who were derailed in their earlier attempt to work together (in Eucalyptus), will try again. The project—an all-Aussie movie—is to be directed by Baz Luhrmann and is being written by Collateral scripter Stuart Beattie. Filming will be later in the year in the land down under and is being described as “an Australian Gone with the Wind.” Margaret Mitchell’s novel of romance and ruin, set against the backdrop of the War Between the States, remains one of America’s most beloved and its characters forever memorable: Scarlett O’Hara, Rhett Butler, Melanie Hamilton, and Ashley Wilkes, to name the four principals. David O. Selznick’s film version was the equal in every way to the novel and faithful to the source material. In the Aussie re-imagining of the novel/film, Nicole and Russell will portray the Scarlett and Rhett-like characters. Naomi Watts will enact the Melanie-type role. Others reportedly already signed for the project include Hugh Jackman, Simon Baker, and Guy Pearce, with Heath Ledger as a possibility. When we ran into Nicole and Naomi poolside at the Beverly Hills Hotel, they couldn’t tell us anything about the project—only that they are involved and that the script is being written by Beatty right now. Oh, and they said they were “very excited” about working together. The two actresses were sunning while watching Nicole’s and Tom’s two kids, Connor and Isabel, swimming and diving. We learned that Naomi has been surviving the breakup of her relationship with Heath Ledger with amazing equanimity. She wishes Heath and his pregnant girlfriend, actress Michelle Williams, nothing but the best. (Heath and Michelle, with the film Brokeback Mountain all finished and ready for release, are said to be hoping for a Labor Day weekend wedding here in the states.) Nicole went on to explain about the “difficulty in having a relationship with a hectic career like mine. My two children are the most important things in my life. They come first before anything or anyone,” and then added, “I won’t be happy with any man unless I feel the great love I had with Tom [Cruise]. I couldn’t be with someone I don’t have enormous respect for. With Tom, I had a great love. So why would I want anything other than a great love again?”
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08/28/05 @10:43 |
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I'm not that bothered about Nicole, but Naomi-YUM
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08/28/05 @12:31 |
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Naomi and Nicole in a film together? Oh, God, please let that happen.
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08/29/05 @01:11 |
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Nicole from the latest French Vogue. (the quote has her talking about how her love life is a terrible failure)
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08/29/05 @05:55 |
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Nicole set my gaydar off in Bewitched. She's clearly a lesbo. r633: v. subversive storyline. Especially the assistant who looked like Tom. Nora Ephron was obviously trying to make a comment about H-wood and 'witches'.
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08/29/05 @06:22 |
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So will Nicole end up like Greta Garbo? Just a question. I love NK's publicist/s btw, they seem to be cool about her talking about what SHE wants not what they want.
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08/29/05 @06:35 |
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This little exchange from The Stepford Wives was too funny for words: Matthew Broderick: "Hey, there's lots of ways to be gay, don't try to make him into a stereotype." Nicole Kidman: *very dismissive chuckle*
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08/29/05 @06:51 |
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Is it me, or is Nicole turning into a "straight" version of Jodie Foster?
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08/29/05 @07:06 |
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Nicole's publicist is Catherine Olim, former vice-president of PMK. Her main job seems to be to deny that Nicole is dating various men. She said back in 2002 regarding rumors of Nicole's love life: "I wish everybody over there would just get a life, because this just all gets ridiculous, and I'm pretty tired of it." (if she was tired back then she must be having a breakdown by now, hehe.) Sounds pretty cool for a publicist.
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08/29/05 @07:09 |
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Another interview where Nicole plays the pronoun game, from Australian Rove Live in July 2004. I'm pretty impressed. The interviewer asks her about a "man", a "guy" and "him" and she completely consistently responds with "person", "someone" and "their". Video at link, the relevant segment is about 5 mins in.
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08/29/05 @18:16 |
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Never heard of the Ben Affleck rumor before. Jesus! I'm quite surprised about how often she uses pronouns, especially when she get asked specific questions. The same with magazines, they use the "Nicole opens up; about Hollywood, aging & MEN". And then when you actually read the interviews she doesn't even mention the word man/him/men. If she's completely straight then so am I.
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08/29/05 @19:53 |
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Thanks a lot, R654!
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08/30/05 @03:45 |
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Nicole Kidman has been pinging for me ever since I saw her dancing together with another girl back when she was in the movie "Flirting" and then when she licked Sandra Bullocks face in "Practical Magic" it sealed the deal for me.
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08/30/05 @10:11 |
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It's amusing how the mainstream media just refuses to pick up on Nicole's pronoun usage, when they run with any other story involving her. Like 655 said, they even translate her "person" to "man" for headlines etc! The only one I've *ever* seen pick up on it was Letterman.
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08/30/05 @10:49 |
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Found this old interview with Naomi. I thought it was interesting with regard to how long she's really been friends with Nicole (if she couldn't even call her in 92). "IS: So what made you decide to check out L.A.? Nw: I don't know-naivete, I guess. By Australian standards I was probably ambitious. IS: And did you have friends who had come to America and had started to make it? Nw: Well, only Nicole. IS: With Nicole being married to Tom Cruise by that point, did you feel like you could jut call her up when you arrived in the States? Nw: No, but a mutual friend of ours, Becca, who went to school with Nicole and who I was very close with said, "I'm going to call and say to expect your call." So I phoned, and Nicole was so great. She invited me to Montana, where she and Tom were shooting Far and Away [1992]-I think I flew there on a private jet with Emilio Estevez to hang out for the weekend. I thought, Oh, my God, this is freaky. But we had a great time. What was so beautiful about it was that Nicole was excited by her life, but also pinching herself, realizing that it was really quite charmed and unusual."
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08/30/05 @15:12 |
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Aww. Isn't Flirting from 1991? They had met in auditions before. How long have these two known each other? 15+ years?
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